One interesting aspect of this build was what their plan of attack was with the rolling chassis they inherited. “Our goal was to build it as inexpensively as possible, not cheap, just inexpensive. We wanted to see how cool we could make a bike using catalog parts to keep the cost down,” said David. Normally that would be a builder’s downfall right there, but Bill said, “There’s very little fabrication, there’s a few custom parts here and there on it like mounts and things, but not much.” It certainly didn’t hurt that Bill’s been doing this daily and can basically look at a part and know what fits and what to avoid.
The roller from Demon’s Cycle Inc. in Pompano Beach, Florida, had mild frame dimensions with a 38-degree rake and a 3” stretch that interested David as he planned to put on many frequent flier miles and thoroughly explore the Hot Rod part of this bike. Like his Outer Limits, he chose a totally rejuvenated Indian PP100 engine from Bill’s workplace to not only provide plenty of power, but a different look as well with its Bottle Cap heads, round cylinders, and left-side intake. “What we did with Dave’s was a mild performance upgrade with Wiseco 10:1 pistons, headwork, a Crane cam, and P&M2’s own cam compartment and points cover with our exclusive HSE ignition,” said Bill. “HSE stands for Hayseed Engineering, which is a name Gilroy Indian gave us when we presented our improvements on their motor. Their engineers told us, ‘We don’t care how you hayseeds on the East Coast do things, we’re going to do it our way.’ At first we were offended, but later when they went belly-up, we kind of took the name as a badge of honor for our sub-company.”
Bill finished it off with an S&S Super E sucking air through a “cheap catalog air cleaner that looks cool on the bike” and a set of used BUB Big Willy pipes which he had lying around. “Originally we had a set of Joker pipes without baffles on it, but I needed to get it inspected. We wrapped them where the damage was and I liked the look and how well they worked so I left them on,” said David. A Primo belt drive spins a 5-speed Indian tranny with left-side chain final drive.
These days, right-side drive is all the rage to clear super-wide tires without creating offset drivetrains and balance problems. The choice of a reasonable 200mm Avon out back was only because the original 180 just didn’t look quite right to David. Up front things are different, the 21” wheel wears a 120mm Avon instead of a classically skinny 90/90 as Bill said, “I like a lot of rubber on the road, the skinny 21s just don’t make it.” Both tires are mounted on Weld Racing wheels that came with the roller. “At first I wasn’t crazy about the wheels, I was going to put wires on it. But as it came together, I thought they looked pretty good on it,” said David. When it’s time to stop this rolling stock, Hawg Halters, front and rear, do the halting. Keeping it all under control out in the real world is the responsibility of Progressive Suspensions’ Softail shocks and a Demon’s springer, which David said “works just fine.”
Like a fenderless Deuce roadster, bodywork was minimal, but critical to achieving the hot rod look they wanted. With Pennsylvania’s penchant for rainy weather and David’s desire to ride it whenever he wanted to, fenders for and aft were part of the specifications. Bill got a pair from the Custom Chrome catalog and they look like they were made for this one bike. Tight, tidy, and protective. As far as the tank goes, David said, “Originally my son had bought a King Sportster tank, but we just couldn’t make it work, so the whole Fat Bob thing happened by accident. The split tanks happened to be compatible with the frame,” said David. Bill added, “With that scallop cut-out underneath the tank, the arch really accentuated the Indian motor.”
Cliff and Skip of the aptly named Custom Painting by Cliff & Skip in Irishtown, Pennsylvania, were once again called upon. This was a much simpler paint scheme than Outer Limits, which had roughly150 hours in it, but it wasn’t easy nonetheless. “Erik wanted it to be gold and red. At first they were offset by the colors, but they really pulled it off well,” said David.
Catalogs continued to be pored over until David and Bill had everything needed to hit the road. The seat, dash, and toolbag are the leatherwork of Bill Junkins Upholsterers in Dillsburg. Summarizing this mail-order brotherly build, Bill said, “People who buy kits do more fabricating,” while David said,“This bike is really fast. You turn the throttle and you gotta hang on.” As for his son Erik, David said, “If he comes back to Philadelphia, he can ride it anytime.” Spoken like a true bro.
Up Close: P&M2 PP100 Engine
Dillsburg, Pennsylvania’s P&M2 Powertrain is a big fan of the Gilroy Indian PP100 engine, well, as long as they’ve gone through it with their long list of upgrades to enhance its performance and reliability. Before Gilroy’s demise, P&M2 and Blackhawk Motor Works in Palm Bay, Florida, double teamed Indian’s engineers to sort out and correct the various running and reliability problems the new 100” Bottle Cap engine had. Unfortunately for Indian, it was a little too late and they pulled the plug before these changes could be instituted in the regular production bikes.
Turning to today, current owners of Gilroy PP100-engined bikes can contact P&M2 to have their engines completely refurbished and upgraded to standards Gilroy only dreamed of. These upgrades include replacing the defective stock flywheels and rod assemblies with USA-made quality items, modified oil pump, and the crankcase breather relocated along with a freshening of what’s already there to P&M2 standards. “It’s too bad none of our motors hit production before they folded, but since then we’re one of the few shops in the country that is authorized by the warranty company to rebuild a PP100,” said Bill.
Even cooler is the possibility of buying a brand new PP100 engine from P&M2 with all the upgrades already done to power your custom and make everyone ask why your carb is on the wrong side. At least if you get bored by this, the PP100 puts out serious power in stock mode to get the hell out of there quickly.
And, in a last P&M2 engine development, their new HSE 120” bad boy is hitting the streets with 121hp and 138ft/lb of torque at your beck and call. This square bore and stroke billet-headed beauty drops right into your Evo frame with no mods necessary.
Check out their info-packed website at www.pm2powertrainltd.com or call 717-432-1585.
Builders: Bill and David Shuey
You’d think using the same ingredients would make the same cake over and over, but the tiniest changes can really make a difference. So too it is with brothers Bill and David Sheuy. Same ingredients, but different cakes. Bill’s taken the more traditional loop with his two-wheeled addiction by getting directly into the business on a day-to-day basis at PM2 Powertrain for the last decade or so while David has found much success in the world of business. One thing that they both share deeply is their love of motorcycles and speaking with them is like talking with a couple of kids. Their enthusiasm and respect for each other is something that I don’t normally expect from siblings. They may not be like two Hostess Cup Cakes, but they’re definitely part of the cake family.
Great minds do think alike. “We try to build bikes that are really roadworthy. You know, everybody can get a custom bike, but then how often do you see them on the highway, riding around on poker runs, and things like that,” said Bill. “We wanted one that you could go to work on, out to lunch on, just do anything you want to. Ease of riding was very big in our book.” David threw in his thoughts, “We didn’t want to build an amusement park ride.”
This bike feature originally appeared in Barnett’s Magazine issue #67, January-March 2009.
SPECIFICATIONS | |
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Owner: | David Shuey |
Year/Make: | Demons Roller |
Fabrication: | Bill Shuey |
Assembly: | P&M Powertrain |
Build time: | 11-months |
Engine: | 100″ Indian Power Plus |
Cases: | Indian |
Rods: | S&S |
Pistons: | Wiseco |
Cylinders/ Heads: | Indian |
Cam: | Crane 314 |
Ignition: | HSE |
Carb: | S&S E Shorty |
Pipes: | BUB Chambermaid |
Air Cleaner: | El Cheapo brand |
Transmission: | BAKER 5-speed |
Primary: | Primo |
Frame: | Demons Cycle South |
Rake/Stretch: | 38-degrees/3″ |
Forks: | Demons Roller |
Rear Suspension: | Softail |
Shocks: | Progressive Suspension |
Wheels: | Weld Racing |
Front Tire: | 120/21 Avon |
Rear Tire: | 180 Avon |
Brake: | Hawg Halters Inc. |
Fuel Tank: | Regency Extended Flatside |
Oil Tank: | Thank you eBay |
Fenders: | Custom Chrome Inc. |
Handlebars/ Risers: | Demon’s Roller |
Headlight: | Old School cheap thing |
Taillight: | Cateye sidemount |
Hand /Foot Controls: | OEM |
Electrical: | Bill Shuey |
Painter: | Custom Painting by Cliff & Skip |
Color: | Candy apple red and gold |
Graphics: | Goldleaf/Cliff & Skip |
Seat: | Barry Junkins/Bill Shuey |